25 reasons gamers annoy non-gamers
Sure, a lot of the mistrust between gamers and non-gamers comes from simple miscommunication, but that doesn’t mean some points aren’t valid. Below are 25 popular (and not so popular) reasons why gamers annoy those who don’t play games.
1. Halo is not a sport.
That’s great that you’re really into playing online games, but they’re not a sport. Not anymore than playing Boggle competitively is. Doing something where you get physical exercise rather an avatar is the first step to playing a sport.
2. The controllers are indeed too complicated.
Nintendo isn’t crazy. The controllers for the PS3 and Xbox 360 are unwieldy, especially for someone who last played a video game in the Pac-Man or Super Mario Bros. era. Manipulating it is a skill lacked by many, so why be annoyed at them?
3. No, I have no clue what happened in Mega Man 4.
Neither do I have any clue what happened 20 years ago on Doctor Who. I just like the little blue guy jumping around and shooting. It’s fun. I don’t really care how the string-thin storyline ties into Mega Man X2.
4. I don’t need 502 ways to decapitate my opponent.
Seriously, after the first 223 I just got bored. After the first 307 I started to forget the first 100. At that point, I’m not sure if I started over reusing the same ones from earlier or not.
5. No, I do not need to read a FAQ to find all 502 ways.
Look, it’s great that such things exist for those who want them. Personally, however, I don’t much enjoy films or books where I need a running commentary just to figure out what’s going on. Why would I enjoy it in a game?
6. Zelda games do not need to be hard edged.
Seriously, I find the art style of The Wind Waker to be charming. I don’t need Gannon chopping off the ears of villagers to make me enjoy the game. It’s fun because it is, not because it will give me nightmares.
7. Resident Evil 2 is not the best in the series.
I couldn’t play it. The controls were awkward and confusing and the save system a mess. Resident Evil 4 was easily the best because it was the most playable except for the very hardcore. Yes, perhaps Resident Evil 2 was the Tolstoy of Resident Evil games and I simply needed to slog my way through it, but I didn’t and I won’t.
8. Final Fantasy VII is the best Final Fantasy.
It was like playing a movie, and it was easy enough I didn’t quit halfway through it. Again, the hardcore may enjoy 100 hours of leveling up, but that gets boring for me. I have other things I want to do with those 100 hours. Plus, I thought Cait Sith was cute.
9. I find Wii Sports to be incredibly fun.
Yes, you’re quite clever in that you can just twist your hand and bowl well. I, on the other hand, actually enjoy acting out the full motion. It’s fun, and it doesn’t take 20 hours simply to master the controls. Yes, I will be purchasing Wii Sports Resort. Maybe two copies–just for kicks.
10. I own a PSP and have not installed custom firmware.
The thing already plays games, movies, music, and surfs the Internet. What else do I need it to do? Play old NES games? Why? If I wanted that I’d buy a GameBoy Color.
11. I really like Guitar Hero.
I get it, okay? There was some game in Japan that was like Guitar Hero, but better in your opinion. You paid a few hundred to import it ten years ago and have an all-knowing smirk towards those of us just discovering the fun of fake guitar games. Great for you.
12. I don’t really like drawing maps to play video games.
The idea of a video game where I need to get out graph paper to keep up with it just sounds like an utter bore. If I had wanted to be a cartographer I would have went to cartographer school–not played a game about it.
13. Madden Football is good enough.
Sure, the game can be exploited against the computer. Guess what? I like that part of it! I want to rush for 250 yards in a game! I want to set the single season record for touchdowns thrown! If I wanted realistic statistics I would go play football for real, and then likely be laid up bed for three months after playing more Madden.
14. Portal was a fun game and not a religion.
Yes, the puzzles were clever and the ending was out of left field. I thoroughly enjoyed the titled. What I don’t need is to worship at the altar of the game. I don’t need a tattoo of the Weighted Companion Cube. I can be a fan with none of the above.
15. I need help playing games sometimes.
There–I said it. I’m not going pro anytime soon and I still need someone to help me along from time to time. On second thought, I might use one of those FAQs just so I don’t waste ten hours trying to find the blue key.
16. You are not persecuted.
Until someone starts telling gamers where they can eat and whom they can date, they have not been persecuted. People calling video games “kids’ stuff” is not persecution. Stop playing Call of Duty and go read a history book.
17. Sorry, but dressing up as Cloud makes you a nerd.
Embrace your inner nerd all you like, but don’t complain when people call you a nerd for doing so. Yes, people who wear football jerseys of their favorite player look like kids, too. Great, you have some company in Nerdsville.
18. $600 is a lot to play video games.
Sure, it can play Blu-Rays, but I’m not a movie nerd, either. $600 is an awful lot to blow on something to play video games, and spending $2,000 on eBay for the same $600 system is even weirder. There’s a good reason the Wii is the best selling system.
19. I will ask if you have Pac-Man or Donkey Kong.
I like those games. They’re fun. They were fun twenty years ago, and they still are today. I’m sure Halo is fun too, but I also like watching reruns of Cheers.
20. I don’t want to join a clan.
Look, the only clans I know of are in Braveheart and Mississippi Burning. I don’t want to join either. I think it’s great you have a little club of online friends to play games with, but I mostly quit joining clubs when I graduated high school. No offense.
21. I like licensed games.
I know this bothers you, but I enjoy playing the games based off Disney’s Cars with my kids. They like the characters and the games are simple and straight forward fun. I’m sure Attack Rocket Auto Death VII is a blast to play, but not for my kids. I will also likely pick them up a Spongebob Squarepants game at some point, and maybe even Hannah Montana.
22. Game stories bore me.
I’m on a strange alien world stranded alone with only an artificial intelligence program to keep me company? Yes, that’s riveting. Wait, there’s a second, even more dangerous alien race out there? Big shocking twist there!
23. I will not read a book or watch a film based on a video game.
Look, if they can’t the story right in the game, why would I assume it’d be better in a film or book? There’s already plenty of good films and books to spend my time with. Tell me when Christopher Nolan makes a video game film and maybe we’ll talk then.
24. I have no idea what a PokeMAN is.
Nor do I know what a PokeMON, or Zelda, or Flood is. I also don’t know who Akira Kurosawa or Michael Chabon are. I do know who Gustav Holst is, however. It’s all about tradeoffs.
25. I enjoy Bejeweled.
Say what you will, but casual games on my computer occupy a lot of my “gaming” time. I enjoy them. They’re light, fun, and don’t require hours upon hours of times invested in them. I do occasionally fire up The Sims or Sim City, and I don’t feel bad about it either.
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about 2 years ago
This is a really nice article, I like it!
This is not “25 reasons gamers annoy non-gamers” though. Its more of a “25 reasons hardcore-gamers annoy casual-gamers”. The way you are talking, you don’t sound like a non-gamer. An idle non-gamer is a frnd of mine, who sometimes confuses a PS3 with a 360, and asks me if I am playing the new GTA game on my PC these days, lol. You are more of a casual gamer.
Me also plays the old Contra and Alien Wars etc. and read FAQs whenever stuck. Also I just throw the games which are difficult (seriously what the fk is wrong in making games easy and fun?), and I like to start with easy difficult in every game I play. Also I like games which are fun to play and not for achieving high score or something.
about 2 years ago
What the hell is wrong with you?
The only thing i could read from this is that the world evolves around you.
Also you contradict yourself at some point but thats OK.
I can understand what you are trying to say…but you make little sense because you are just RANTING about about stuff that is most likely your problems and not those of the “non-gamers”.
Have a nice day….>=(
about 2 years ago
Holy crap! Someone else knows who Gustav Holst is???
Planets is awesome.
1st one is the best. I consider myself a “hardcore” gamer, but most online multiplayer (and EVERYTHING on xbox live) makes me want to not-online kill the boyish babies who run around virtual-teabagging everyone they kill.
Then I’d not-virtual teabag them, just for closure.
about 2 years ago
What does joining clans have to do with non-gamers? The title of the article is confusing because half the stuff does not pertain to non-gamers. It would have been more acceptable if you titled it “25 reasons gamers annoy me” I would have to agree with Sidar, this is more a rant.
about 2 years ago
1st suite in E flat! Mars! Rejoice!
about 2 years ago
A lousy rant in the form of a list to increase site traffic. You are pathetic.
about 2 years ago
The title suggests you’ll actually list things that gamers like that non-gamers don’t. This is a complete rant about various different kinds of people you do not like and in no way represents gamers in general.
I’ve never heard of a gamer claim that it’s somehow a sport or that the storyline in Mega Man is somehow incredibly important Even your point about Wind Waker is completely backwards as it’s the casual gamers that disliked the style while Zelda fans enjoyed it.
RE2 fans are the only ones you’ll hear claims of it being great from; same with various FF fans claiming FF7 sucks or console/PC fanboys that hate the Wii claiming Wii Sports isn’t worth playing. And why do you think people install custom firmware on their PSPs? In general it’s people being cheapskates and having an easy means to get games for free.
about 2 years ago
i.. don’t get how the title relates to any of the things you say at all..
i expected 25 reasons as to why “gamers” annoy “non-gamers” as if it were a deliberate action from one side to the other;
like how does ‘game stories bore me’ relate to how gamers annoy non-gamers at all?
about 2 years ago
Oh Justin, you have been hurt; that much is clear.
Who hurt you Justin? Who hurt you?
This list seems to be directed at one specific person, not a whole group of people. I consider myself a hard-core gamer and I fully realize that other people don’t want to hear about the minutiae that interests me, so I don’t annoy them with it. This isn’t a Gamer/non-gamer issue, it’s simply a good tip for positive interpersonal relations.
about 2 years ago
Was I the only one laughing through most of the list? I took it as firmly tongue in cheek for the most part.
about 2 years ago
Why does everyone have to bash the PS3? Even in a silly fluff article like this, the PS3 has to be bashed. Get over it and enjoy gaming.
about 2 years ago
Justin, you are a complete and utter tool. In fact you are a large collection of tools. A tool box. No, that’s not enough tools. You, my friend, are a fucking shed.
This is mindless drivel full of unfair generalizations and written in clearly hateful tones. A totally unnecessary attack by a completely closed-minded person who has an obvious grudge against people who like games that require them to exercise a bit of skill and brainpower… things that very obviously aren’t required in order to write for this website.
Also, why is this on a site for gamers? I don’t understand the logic, but I suppose it explains why I haven’t come across this shithole before. Why would they let a casual gamer write for them anyway? Casual gamers are clueless, and thanks to this bullshit, never before has evidence of that fact been so clear.
People like things you don’t. Deal with it. I hate sports but I don’t feel the need to write an article talking down to people who enjoy it, or slandering their hobby just because I don’t understand it. You’re an asshole, your attitude sucks, your writing sucks, and I sincerely hope I’m never subjected to one of your “articles” ever again.
about 2 years ago
Do you also tell doctor’s that they annoy you because they know too many medical terms?
about 2 years ago
An Hero. You should look into it.
about 2 years ago
….and why do you have a website about games and “play” them? if you ask me you are a big flaming hypocrite. You are below the casual gamer. you are a tool.
about 2 years ago
Gaming stories? Have you ever even read one of the 5 soon to be 6 Halo novels? How can you criticize a story that is more in-depth than your pathetic mind can comprehend( whether you like the story or not) about being about aliens and silly AI? As for all the other things on the list, I think everyone else made it clear through their comments.
about 2 years ago
Wow, you are the most uptight whinner I have ever had the displeasure to read about. Coming to this I thought it would be a funny list, but instead I see it just your complaints as to why you have no friends. Why does N4G keep linking to this garbage.
about 2 years ago
Your promising list failed as soon as the subjects became your opinions. “FFVII is the best FF”? while i also like it most out of the ones i’ve played… it was irrelevant to the list. Also, if you’re going to talk about non gamers as a whole you DONT use ‘me’ and give your personal opinions. you are not the only non gamer out there (i know this very well, as my parents arent either) so don’t pretend that every one of them is annoyed by precisely the same things you are. Everyone who plays video games even a little bit will get into a certain area more than someone else and maybe even become a fan without being too serious or become ‘hard core,’ you CAN do that without becoming a ‘gamer’ actually. It’s like finding a TV series you like and keep watching because you like it for what it is without being overly obsessed by it.
try re writing this list after getting the opinions of other non gamers and cutting out all of the ‘me’s.’ You have some valid ones already, the one about the different controllers for example. You should definitely have one regarding fanboys,though… I’m a gamer and i really dislike them (on all sides).
about 2 years ago
@ voiceofreason:
none of his comments were hateful
@ everyone else who feels insulted
you’re all fanboys. especially you, mr. ‘you obviously havent read the 5 soon to be 6 halo novels’ well DUH! he doesnt CARE.
about 2 years ago
Well this just comes across as ill informed.
Where to begin?
First off, I’ve always had a problem with people calling the PS and Xbox controllers too difficult or complex to use. People learn how to use keyboards every day; yet an eight button controller is too much?
This whole article basically comes across like, “Hey! I’m really ignorant about the hobby I partake in and would like to continue my ignorance!!” Great you like your Wii, so do the other 20 million dolts with the motor skills of a retarded pigeon being smashed with a brick.
There’s a great reason why the Wii is selling well. It’s appealing to idiots. It’s like hey dumb people, now you too can play video games. No skill? No problem we’ve taken skill out of video games! Don’t like challenges? Well fear not, we’ve even taken choices out of the games!
about 2 years ago
i gotta say i holsts’ 2nd suite in F is pretty good the last movement always reminds me of the gator golf song
about 2 years ago
WOW stop bitching
omg pac-man is fun wooo hooo …….20 years ago
get real, im going to make a list
25 reasons why list makeing cocksuckers annoy gamers
about 2 years ago
You need to look up the definition of ‘Sport’.
Is auto racing a sport? The machine does most of the work.
Wikipedia definition of ‘Sport’:
Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
The term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (a common name for some card games and board games with little to no element of chance) and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.
about 2 years ago
This is a response to GamesRadar’s piece, right? Here’s the original:
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/25-annoying-things-about-non-gamers/a-2008080711033596074
about 2 years ago
The PS3 is not $600 anymore.
about 2 years ago
I have to agree with this guy im a gamer but not to the extent of gaming nerds like some people, and i swear gaming nerds are so annoying its not even funny.
about 2 years ago
Congratulations.
You’ve just summed up all the reason to hate gamers. You must be really clever (and arrogant) for contributing to that.
about 2 years ago
Honestly, this list cannot be taken seriously. Specially since, ‘I love licensed games’ and ‘I will not watch a movie based on a game’ are both on the list.
It’s the same problem. Rarely does a movie translate well into a game. Rarely does a game translate well into a film.
The absolutes used in this list make the list completely irrelevant.
Oh and those ‘fun games’ that you play with your kids, yeah, the controls are not too complicated on those are they? Yeah, one controller, many buttons, yet simple controls for simple games. You can keep your Wii Nunshuck and Wii Classic controller ad-ons (fixes?).
about 2 years ago
By da way, PS3 costs 500$
about 2 years ago
Really? 8 buttons is too unwieldy? There’s way more buttons on a TV remote or a cell phone! (Okay, okay. If you count start and select buttons, and analog sticks that click in, and the d-pad, I suppose it’s more than 8 but it’s rare that a game makes you memorize inputs for more than 8 buttons.)
about 2 years ago
This has to be the worst piece of s*** list i have ever read in my life, thanks for wasting 2min of my life …ass.
about 2 years ago
im sorry to inform you but this was ignorant first what like 8 buttons on a standard controller plus analog sticks not to complicated for even the simplest of minds, Also i do agree halo and c.o.d.4 are taken to extreme levels of belief but by definition video games can be sports to a degree. don’t get me wrong i play like every new game that comes out if it interests and hey maybe i like being able to decapitate someone like 500 ways like come on i guarantee if you sat down actually invested in a next gen system and played a simple like racing or fps then im pretty sure you could understand how people can get so into games so just leave it at that don’t post your pet peeves to get feedback of exactly what you want attention from people you can’t relate with because their brain processes on a different level of belief that games are their life so next time just keep your facts buried deep inside
about 2 years ago
8 is sort of contradicted by 22 and 23. Also, if you have time to sit around and make a list about why you don’t like gamers i don’t think you have much room to complain about waisting time. Furthermore, the way you have presented this long list complaints you seam to be jealous more then anything. thanks for waisting peoples time with this sorry attempt to generate web traffic.
about 2 years ago
Hey, guess what… you ARE a Gamer… this is a list of the games that you like and play and have played but don’t like. All gamers play different games, you play what appeals to you. Stop denying yourself your true identity, not all gamers are hardcore nerds.
about 2 years ago
Um, Michael Chabon won the Pulitzer Prize for literature in 2001. Pretty mainstream award there. Maybe you should get up out of the hardcore world of Pac-Man and Donkey Kong and read a book, you big game nerd.
about 2 years ago
Funny this article complains about how hard the current generation of controllers are to handle, and you post it on a site called ”game with a brain”.
There are things that take far more dexterity and co-ordination to do than using a control pad. You say using them is a skill lacked by many, but sales figures on systems the past few years show a few billion people handle it just fine, so maybe you just have some inability to use your hands properly.
It’s possible it spread from your brain, judging by this article.
about 2 years ago
lol your a closet case gamer.
about 2 years ago
A few good comments in here€, but face it, Justin has a lot of valid points as well. Nick and Blazing Krotch are both right though, you are a gamer and not all gamers are nerds, but there will be some, and gamers generally hate movies based on games and vice versa.
I’m not a serious gamer, but it’s likely I used to be (depending on your definition), I used to play AOE at home every second Saturday. Majority of the blogs in my Google Reader are about games, and I even watch the video game channel occassionally, and I generally hate sports.
I’ll admit that during the mid 90s, when the PS first came out, it looked and seemed over complicated, but you very soon get used to it and that was YEARS back, so no points there Justin.
But retro and casual games are just as awesome as serious games, they just don’t have the longevity though, and the great thing about the Wii is that it’s the most social game out there. Spinoffs, guides and “the background stories” really are added extras, and calling Halo a “sport” really is pushing the nerd factor to the max.
about 2 years ago
Wow, that list is just wrong. I am a Gamer and either all of those points are wrong or they just aren’t very good.
about 2 years ago
Dressing up as Cloud Strife does not make you a nerd. It makes you a cosplayer. And a lot of people, millions in fact, go to Anime conventions every year. So no people who dress up as there favoret character (including Cloud)are not nerds.
about 2 years ago
It’s a joke, people. Cut the s**t.
about 2 years ago
This is awesome to read. Screw that most things written here may be offensive to whiny people that like to think they’re important enough to make everyone be against only them, it’s hilarious.
about 2 years ago
Wow. Nice rage fuel.
about 2 years ago
lmao look at you slobs get all defensive. You sir are my hero for the day.
about 2 years ago
You guys realize you’re proving his point?
about 2 years ago
i thought this list was funny and entertaining. i consider myself a gamer and i really do agree with the majority of the list. it is certainly funnier than the list linked by grinanddva on gameradar’s site. i don’t understand why the individuals criticizing this list do so with such venomous hatred towards the author, nor the need to personally attack him for these views which, by all means, are sensible. the ps3 WAS 600$, and many of you “hardcore” gamers defended that cost (which was the point the article was OBVIOUSLY trying to make). video game controllers ARE complicated, as well as in-game controls; EVERY SINGLE TIME there is a party in my household with varying ages and sexes the wii gets played for its SIMPLE and INTUITIVE controls. i love that i can play a game with my father, my sister, my 2 year old niece, and even my mother. and as far as game stories are concerned, the majority of them are terrible (see HALO…seriously). but of course, there are many games that captures our imaginations with great story telling and execution (which may explain his shout out towards FFVII). i can go one…but i digress..
about 2 years ago
Sounds like the author’s under some sort of illusion of persecution for playing madden and guitar hero.
about 2 years ago
All of the people commenting about how this list is a waste of time is taking this too seriously.
Reason number 26: Gamers have no sense of humor.
about 2 years ago
This was such a waste of time. Justin is looking for attention by trying to piss people off with a stupid list that seems to contradict itself. Way to go.
about 2 years ago
You morons would not know satire if it hit you in the face. lol Stupid nerdy assed gamers